Student Interview
For our student interview, we talked to a grade 12 student who is tutored by one of our group members. He is an intelligent student, who just does not fully apply himself. With tutoring, he has been able to greatly improve his marks, and he has had teachers in the past from whom he has been able to learn effectively.
Our first two questions were about what he likes and dislikes about math. He likes to graph and to use the graphing calculator technology, indicating that he is a visual learner. He dislikes problem solving, which we feel is a common issue with many students. He said that this was because there is no predetermined way to change words into equations that was the same every time. To us, this implied that he doesn’t understand math at very deep level.
Our third question was "What could be done in the classroom to help your learning?". The student said that he wished that the teacher had better and well organized notes. If the teacher is writing on the board, he finds that they often write in a 'non-linear' way. This means that these teachers will write in different locations, go backwards, erase things and write overtop of diagrams. This makes notes difficult to follow after the lectures. The student suggested that teachers will be more effective to use overheads instead of the blackboard. We feel this is significant because teachers need to be aware of these specific learning styles if they are trying to use engaging activities. Some students still need the more traditional teaching strategy of note taking in order to learn effectively.
The student also mentioned that he likes teachers to give examples that are the same as questions on their tests. We feel that this is an indication that he is used to learning instrumentally, but his teacher is trying to teach relationally.
Our fourth question was "what would you like to see done in your classroom?". He said that he wanted a more interactive environment. We feel that this means that he wanted a more relaxed and friendly environment, where he felt comfortable talking to his peers. He also mentioned that there are many grade 11's in his class, and that this affects the feel of the classroom. This brought up the importance of the overall mood and feeling that you create within your class. Not only do you have to think about how to organize a lesson and explain concepts, but you also have to consider how students will feel while they are sitting in your class. This is not a simple matter either, for there are many different factors that can affect a classroom environment.
Our final question was about how he views his overall math education. He found that his view of mathematics changed with every year, and with the individual teacher that he has had. This stresses the importance of our jobs, and the effect (both positive and negative) that we can have on a student. He also said that he felt that elementary school mathematics was a joke, and that nothing was really taught there. We agree with this sentiment as there is no reason why elementary students should not be learning more advanced mathematics because they are perfectly capable. The issue is that teachers cannot assume that students have learned anything in previous years, because they get passed regardless of ability. We also feel that the new curriculum is moving concepts into higher grade levels, while we feel that many of these topics should be taught earlier.
Teacher Interview
For our teacher interview we talked to the department head at one of the local Vancouver secondary schools. He is fairly young (likely mid to late 30’s) and very involved in the math education community.
We jumped right in by asking him how he deals with students who are not interested in math. He said that he tries to make the activities and problems as engaging as possible, but admitted that he does not make any special effort to encourage individuals. He implied that choosing to engage in the activities or not is the student’s choice. We found this answer very surprising as it gave us the impression that this teacher almost did not care about such students, and that if they do not want to learn math, then it is not his problem. We feel that reaching out to those students who may have a negative view of mathematics and trying to change their opinions is a very important aspect of teaching math.
We then asked the teacher if he had any especially effective teaching methods that he would suggest. He said that he likes to teach through investigatory activities, and believes that students learn best through discovering, not being told something. This is something that we have heard a lot about in many of our classes, so it was nice to see that there are teachers putting it into practice. He also said that he likes to give students surprising problems, meaning questions which might have answers that are contrary to what was initially expected. He finds that this really grabs their attention and helps them engage in the material.
Our third question was about what aspects of the job he finds to be most difficult. He said that his biggest challenge is recognizing his own weaknesses, learning from them, and growing in his teaching. He sees many of his colleagues getting “stuck in a rut” and being afraid of change, therefore he finds it difficult to prevent himself from falling into the same situation. He has tried to integrate new ideas into the classroom, but finds that there is a lot of resistance, both from the students and his fellow teachers. We feel that this is an important thing to recognize, particularly while we are trying to bring in new ideas during our practicum. Everyone gets used to a particular system, and it is very difficult to change.
Our fourth question dealt with the amount of time that is involved in teaching. He said that he works approximately 55 to 60 hours a week. He stays at school until 5pm everyday, and works in the evenings and on weekends too. There is a lot of marking, although the amount of preparation time required decreases as you gain experience. He is also constantly thinking about teaching, so in that sense, it invades all aspects of his personal life. These are, of course, good things to be aware of as we enter the teaching profession.
Finally, we asked him, what was most rewarding about his job. He said that he really loves interacting with intelligent, thoughtful and inquisitive students. We agree that this would be a wonderful part of the job, as you would be able to share your love and enthusiasm for the subject matter. However we also feel that helping students who struggle, and seeing them having a major breakthrough with the subject, would be extremely rewarding as well. This may even be more rewarding than interacting with the intelligent students. We got the impression that this teacher focuses a lot of his energy on the bright students, and less on the weaker students. We feel that all students deserve a teacher’s time and energy, and that a teacher can learn a lot from each and every one of their students.
(This post was created in collaboration with Edward Liao and Shannon Kennedy)
I didn't agree with how this teacher doesn't make any special effort to engage students and focuses most of his energy on the brighter students. It has a negative impact on the students who are really trying, but need a little more attention, guidance and mentoring through no fault of their own. His teaching philosophy implies favoritism. Students are quite perceptive and may be resentful of this. This may be the reason why students resist his efforts to try new things in his classrooms. If they don't believe these new ideas will have a positive impact on them (or will only have a positive impact on a select few), why would they want to make the effort for someone who isn't really making an effort for them?
ReplyDeleteThe hours that the teacher you interviewed works grabbed everyone's attention during the presentation. We all knew that teachers work hard and long but we have never seen the actual figures, the number of hours per week. We can just imagine the hours we will be working in the beginning and during our practicum. His focus on intelligent students is kind of disturbing. His reasoning for that may be that if he did not have those smart kids in his class his hours might be far greater than 60 per week. So we can give him a little slack there.
ReplyDeleteI love your observation on the student with visual learning. It happens sometimes that teachers, who generally know their material well, do not bother to organize their notes as well so that visual learners can follow. If we remember, for example, how we learned to print letters in kindergarten and continued to try to write neatly while still learning in early grades then we can also remember that once we had complete command of our printing we started to scrabble and rush when writing. So, sometimes teachers do this as well 'scrabble' because their full command of the material. However, when we teach we should keep in mind that our students are encountering the material for the first time and they need to see it presented in a neat form.
I like how Maria has described the need for organized notes. As a visual learner myself, I have always been very conscious of the way in which information is presented to me on the board, and I fully understand this students frustrations. That being said, I had never thought of it in terms of new material being presented in an orderly fashion, while old material that we are comfortable with can be "scribbled". Certainly, when I am doing math calculations that I have done a hundred times I can do it on a little scrap of paper and it's a complete mess (just look at my work for our EDCP 343 assignment). I think this way of describing it could be a very good way of explaining the importance of clear notes to teachers who have never been made aware of this problem before.
ReplyDeleteI also agree that having organized notes is a very important thing to have as a teacher, especially a math teacher. I don't consider myself to be a very visual learner, but I have to admit that I have performed the best when I have had an instructor who gives well organized notes. As a teacher I will hope for clear, organized, and legible homework to be handed into me so that it is easier to mark, with this in mind it is only fair that I would set the example by giving notes in that fashion.
ReplyDeleteAs for the teacher, I agree with Vincent above. I feel that it is a real shame for a teacher to have the attitude that the students who don't understand it now will never understand it so why bother. These are the teachers that should be retiring or changing professions to make way for us young, bright-eyed, and eager teachers.
The students will absolutely pick up on it if they feel like their teacher only cares about the bright students. If they struggle already they will simply shut down and not continue to try. You can be the best mathematician in the world, but if you do not build that caring relationship with your students and work with all of them to achieve to the best of their ability you will be unsuccessful as a teacher.
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